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Post by Gonzo Gomo Gomez on May 3, 2006 22:18:01 GMT 10
england without wayne rooney. should be confirmed tomorrow. apparently numerous breaks at the base of his 4th metatarsal. I have a feeling that this might have something to do with his boots. the lining of the soles are now thiner and hence dont have as much protection, and he did break the 5th metetarsal in the euro's so there may be some general weakening in the area
anyway, personally i think that instead of peter crouch playing, england shoudl adapt a 4-5-1 formation with carrick/parker plus lampard and gerrard in central midfield to support owen if he goes. much better option in my opinion.
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Post by Vish on May 4, 2006 0:06:06 GMT 10
The ONLY chance of England doing anything is if they adopt Liverpools gameplans and revolve there team around Gerrard playing that right-sided free role that he does to perfection with Carrick playing Alonso's role. The only way they can include Beckham in this is if Gerrard play on the left side of the free role then.
They have to play Crouch as well. He will be a handfull against defenses and allow Owen if fit to get free in th box easier.
Parker is a definate no-go as he has Gulandular fever. It will be Carrick/King/Hargraves who will be playing as an defensive midfielder for England this tournament.
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Post by Vish on May 4, 2006 0:09:56 GMT 10
How good is it that we have Hiddink! I'm not saying that we are definates to get through our group but there is no better coach to have than him.
Factizmo.
Heres hoping that the USA pull something out of the blue to finish 1st in there group so we can stick it to that cunt bruce arena.
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Post by Sim on May 4, 2006 12:54:22 GMT 10
Heres hoping that the USA pull something out of the blue to finish 1st in there group so we can stick it to that cunt bruce arena. Fuck the USA n Bruce faggot Arena, who has a last name after a stadium??? Or open space? LOL Get on the Ukraine band wagon boys, we're going thru first stage! Just gotta beat Spain first match n its been done before. Feel really sorry for England n Wayne dunno who they'll take for the other 3 strikers Defoe, Bent, Vassel??? they're all shit xcept Bent.
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Post by Gonzo Gomo Gomez on May 4, 2006 18:29:29 GMT 10
yeah i'd put money on ukraine making it to the second round. how the injury situation for them simo? didnt you say the keepers were out?
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Post by Vish on May 4, 2006 20:41:04 GMT 10
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Post by Sim on May 5, 2006 14:00:29 GMT 10
yeah i'd put money on ukraine making it to the second round. how the injury situation for them simo? didnt you say the keepers were out? Yer keeper back dunno how he's going tho should check it out, I think Aliev missed out on selection...damn! But the squad is ok as long as Sheva stays fresh, only other bad thing is Voronin stopped scoring for Leverkusen which a worry. Don't think Rebrov made the squad either. The other thing is that there's no reserve keeper of any good quality. But we've beaten Spain before n we can do it again.
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Post by Vish on May 7, 2006 0:45:21 GMT 10
Lets think about this and name who CAN win the WC.
My list would be........
Brazil. Argie barjies. Holland. Italia. Germany. Spain. Czechs. Serbs & Montes.
Who's your bunch. Who would you omit from my list and why? Who would you include from my list and why?
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Post by Sim on May 7, 2006 13:41:58 GMT 10
Lets think about this and name who CAN win the WC. My list would be........ Brazil. Argie barjies. Holland. Italia. Germany. Spain. Czechs. Serbs & Montes. Who's your bunch. Who would you omit from my list and why? Who would you include from my list and why? Brazil - U can't even begin to bet against them Argie barjies - would have had a chance with Wayne, but now someone has to inject more spark in their play i have no idea who. Apart from J.Cole n Gerrard they don't have much else. Do they? Holland - cannot as they're too inexperienced Italia - too unstable lol the, the strikers r in pathetic form apart from Inzaghi n L.Toni(who has stopped scoring). Gilla is rubbish as well as that they have major problems if Totti isn't in form. Germany - too inexperienced n unstable at the back Spain - chokers no strikers of any real quality, D.Villa is unproven, F.Torres is absolute rubbish and wat can i say bout Raul n Mozza absolutely nothing with their seasons. Czechs - looking good again but might have pshycological problems after their Euro 2004 exit TO GREECE??? Serb & Munt - Don't know anything bout em, but they look like a dark horse Others i would add r: Argentina - looked quite solid through qualifying n Crespo enjoying himself atm could b very dangerous. Croatia - didn't lose a match or very few in qualifying could prove a surprise. But their forwards r very immobile, only good in the air. Portugal - look very good n solid, as long as the coach pulls C.Ronaldo by the ear tactically, which he did in Euro they will b very dangerous. A team that has played 2gether for a while, n has a great potential. That is what i think, btw G i have the complete Eric Cantona collection atm from a soccer mate, its fuckin sick!
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Post by Gonzo Gomo Gomez on May 7, 2006 14:31:52 GMT 10
i want the eric comp. is it the DVD collection by any chance?
and was argie bargies england or argentine? i thought you meant argentina
anyway my list would be: brazil - cause they are brazil. and cause they have ronaldinho and kaka and adriano and fat ronaldo(will be slim and fit and at his best for brazil) and robinho. decent bot great defense. biggest weakness is in central midfield. emerson is aging and his partner (ze roberto) is a left winger by trade. for some reason carlos alberto persists with playing him in central midfield instead of say gilberto silva. if you overrun their midfield, then ronaldinho and kaka will have a track back to get the ball and theoretically you coudl neutralise them. this is purely hypothetically. with brazil anything is possible.
argentina - tevez, messi and riquelme are probably just as good as brazils quartet, and crespo is always a good finisher. defensively very strong as well but goalkeeper as yet an unknown quantity.
portugal - c.ronaldo to weave his magic, plus quaresma is in the form of his life, not to mention deco, simao, figo. solid defense and not a bad central midfield, but the attacking midfielders are just brilliant. only worry is they dont have a top striker
czech - have to love the czechs. hope poborsky's playing and has an awesome world cup. just love karel i do. very well organised team. great going forward (koller, baroz, hienz, rosicky, nedved, paborsky, jankolovski), solid defense(ujfalusi, cech). wierd tactis they they play really well and that could unsettle the oposition
holland - who knows what van basten will come up with. i couldnt name more than 5 players in their starting line up, but i trust van basten's judgement and hence they should do well. then again may flop big time.
spain - well i've picked them for the 2010 world cup. so perhaps a good showing here will boost their odds. best midfield in the world if all 5( vicente, joaquin, cesc, xavi and xabi) play. but they are inexperienced at the highest level. which is why i think they will win the next world cup. villa is in the form of his life, and i have picked him to nick the golden boot if spain have a good run. would like to run the rule over torres, to see if its just hype or he's actually good. defensively they are weak, but not competely rubbish.
others: england - i'd rule them out simply cause sven's in charge and with rooney out cant see them making it past the quaters. but like i said, rooney's injury may let sven play lampard and gerrard together and an actual defensive midfielder to support them. will give them the freedom to play their natural game. on the other hand, england being england are the most overrated team going into the world cup. its their press's fault. so expect them to get knocked out early. oh and who will the players listen to now. ther current boss who leaves in a month, and their future boss. cant upset either, cause then they will be dropped now or dropped in the future
italy - well i dont rate them that highly. a lot depends if totti plays, and even if he plays, if he's in form. if the last two major tournaments are anything to go by, totti will flop. who knows. still ther strikers do come with big reputations and may or may not perform. who knows. inzaghi is purely a poacher, vieri is past it, toni has finally hit a bad patch of form and gila has dissapointed me this season. their midfield is quite average if pirlo and gattusso play. overrated and basically you are playing two players where one(say xabi alonso) could do the same job just as well if not better. personally i'd play de rossi and perrotta, but thats just me. also dont rate camorenesi at all, and del piero at best shoudl come of the bench. then again ppl have written off del piero as being past it since 98, and he's been playing for the last 8 yrs at a pretty decent level. defensively pretty good. you have to be when you have zambrotta(best full back) and nesta(best centre back) and buffon (best goalkeeper). but i think cannavaro is past it. relies on reputation and bullying the opposition strikers. works in italy but not in europe and definately not at the world cup. at their other fullback spot is being contested between 3-4 players. the best of whom will play with the other spot being taken up by zambrotta.
germany - home team which might be good or might be bad. lot of pressure on both the team and the manager. some good players, namely ballack, schwiestiger and podolski. but the latter two are the future. cant put too much pressure on them just yet. lehmann is in good form, but the defense is quite shaky. if lahm plays then they have one good fullback. centrebacks are quite poor. metzelder is not the same since his return from injury and the other options are just big brutes. have a relatively easy draw, and every home team makes at least the quaters.
france - well who knows. this may be henry's year. he scored against real, so maybe he's ready to get rd of his chocker's tag. who knows. talented player, like totti, the question is can he perform. this world cup will tell. other than him, they have a pretty average team. zidane is back but may be past it. makalele is still class, but hes not going to score winning goals. defensivly not the best, but gallas and mexes are very good players. if barthez plays, then weak in goal, if coupet then they have someone reliable. depends on if the likes of ribery and pires go, cause they can change the game, but unlikely anyway to win it
serbia - dark horses for sure. solid defense and in midfield they have dejan stankovic who on his day coudl rip apart any defense in the world. kezmen had big raps, but poor form in the last two seasons outside holland. but i dont know much about them, so i'll leave it at that. but if they are all as hard as vidic, then you ahve a team that no one would mess with
croatia - dont know much about them. prso is a big strong forward. but thats about it to his game really. nico kranjacar is a rising star from CM. they usually pick them right. have igor tudor and robert kovac and igor biscan in midfield and defense as well. so experienced in midfield and defense. good solid team, but not spectacular. but there is always a team that does unexpectadly well. might be them
australia - most people would say no chance. bonus if they just qualify from their group. but guus is in charge and this is football. anything can happen. bresciano and kewell can change any game in an instant.
ivory coast - best of the africans but in a very tough group. still quality players, very strong very quick and will give everyone a hard game. could make it the second round, and if they do, dont bet against them going far
ghana - next best african nation. star is obiviously essien, have a very good midfield, with the lieks of muntari and appiah ably supporting essien. but in a tough group as well, but most likely to get out then ivory coast. should beat the usa and may be able to nick points off the italians or the czech. unforunately they play the americans last and it might be too late. on the other hand, they play the italians first, and might be able to surpise them.
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Post by Sim on May 8, 2006 16:41:14 GMT 10
It is the collection one, come round one day!
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Post by Gonzo Gomo Gomez on May 8, 2006 18:23:37 GMT 10
is it a dvd? cause i got a dvd burner and i can burn it. i want a copy.
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Post by Vish on May 8, 2006 19:48:29 GMT 10
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Post by Vish on May 8, 2006 19:49:15 GMT 10
Who's Senna from Villereal?
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Post by Gonzo Gomo Gomez on May 8, 2006 22:48:11 GMT 10
Who's Senna from Villereal? he's a defensive midfielder. he's actually brazillian, but he's just got a spanish passport and hence plays for spain. decent not great. dont expect him to go really. surprised that vicente didnt make that team. i know he's injured but still
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