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Post by Vish on Feb 17, 2004 16:50:20 GMT 10
yeah our defense is quite poor. but i don't really see lucio as the answer. mexes perhaps as he has a style similar to that of blanc, and blanc at his best was magnificent to watch. he would just stroll up to the attacker and take the ball away and continue to go forward as if nothing had happened. Goodo' but more likely they will go for vincent kompany ( in my opinion one for the future as he's only 17), matteo ferrari ( when he was at inter didn't get too many opportunities so he left. but that was the same with pirlo and look at him now) and/or kevin hofland ( apparently he's back to his best form of 3 years ago) maybe if van byuten does well at city, we may get him, but the problem is any defender coming in, will have to play second string to ferdy and silvestre, which means they have to be versatile enough to play in a number of positions across the back four, and only company has the potential to do that. ferrari and hofland can play at right back and left back respectively, but they will be more like a wide centre back than an true attacking fullback. mexes can only play in the centre. the problem is that the current situation is temporary, that is till ferdy comes back, and he's be back by the start of next season. most likely we will buy defenders, but they will be young and highly versatile players, and maybe a good replacement for g.neville(unlikely as fergie won't drop him, and we do need the experience at the back) I thought Mexes could play RB as well. Don't forget about Arsenal wanting him too. I would expect Kompany[GUN] to go to Man U in a few years, but not in the summer. Hofland could be a big chance. Don't know about Ferrari. i hope the old formation returns, cause i like it so much more. Keep the 442! fergie does not have a no 2 and we do need to get one, and glazer the american dude appaerntly is a ruthless son of a bitch. personally i don't want anyone to buy man u unless somehow i get the billion pounds needed to buy the club ;D while spending like abramovich would be fun, we just can't juggle so many players and keep them all happy, unless you lose 5 or 6 players to injury like chelsea have. Ditto, are you worried about him? what i would like to see is replacements to be groomed for scholes, giggs, keane. robben will be the new giggs, rooney will be the new scholes. now all we have to do is go spend 30 million pounds on the two of them. kleberson and liam miller will be our new central midfiled in a few years, unless fergie goes and buys xabi alonso Well if you say so! One thing that stands out about Giggs when I watch him play is his build. It's perfect for the English game. Now compare his build to Robbens. (hehehehe) Good luck to him adapting to EPL. Kleberson! Where is Darren Fletcher!!!!!! hahahaha! Apparently Everton have signed up Wayne Rooney's younger bro who is said to be better then Wayne so that wouldn't surprise me. A Newcastle bid for him(W. Rooney) wouldn't surprise me as well. Getting our asses kicked in a bidding war from Man U wouldn't surprise me as well.
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Post by Gonzo Gomo Gomez on Feb 19, 2004 13:06:27 GMT 10
oh the topic of a players build, did you know that o'shea was a skinny little kid 3 years ago. fergie fattened him up so that he would be bigger, and now he has a decent build. not yet as big as campbell, but it'll do for a left back.
robben and ronaldo are both lightweight, but they will grow soon. giggs is perfect everyone knows that ;D man u will win in the bidding war if fergie really wants rooney and rooney really wants to come. ronaldinho wasn't too sure so we lost him, but saha did want to come and we got him. i suppose if chelsea put a 100 million pound bid then we'll lose, but then maybe rooney doesn't want to go to chelsea. right now its just speculation. i heard that newcastle want beatie as a successor to shearer, and that beatie will leave southhapmton is hoddle takes over. beatie will be a good buy. i rate him quite highly. not in the nistelrooy, henry class but definately as good as the likes of cisse, inzaghi and saha.
apparently inter want mexes. i also heard that inter and barcelona are planning a major shakeup end of the season regardless of whether or not the teams reach champions league spots. most likely both managers and lots of players will leave
we'll have to wait and see till the summer who buys who. i've heard that there coudl be a mass sale at roma if there is no buyer, so totti, emerson, cassano, smauel, mancini and chivu could all leave. apparently cannavaro wants to leave inter as well. everything will work themselves out after the euro championships
fletcher looks alright, but i think he's more of a central midfielder than a winger. richardson and chris eagles and tim martin( the bechakm-giggs hybrid) and all supposed to be good and will break into the first team in a few years. i think there will be a changing of the guards in 3-4 years time. then there wil be no more giggs, keane, scholes, butt, solskjear and the nevilles and there will be all these young players. exciting times ahead, if fergie stays. if not anything can happen
btw is bridges any good? and are you going to sign him?
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Post by Vish on Feb 19, 2004 17:00:22 GMT 10
oh the topic of a players build, did you know that o'shea was a skinny little kid 3 years ago. fergie fattened him up so that he would be bigger, and now he has a decent build. not yet as big as campbell, but it'll do for a left back. robben and ronaldo are both lightweight, but they will grow soon. giggs is perfect everyone knows that ;D Robbens build is quite like mine but with longer arms. Bad news. Good luck to him though But, one thing him and Ronaldo (I may as well chuck in Reyes too) have going for them is there pace which wont resign them to being Premier League duds like Hugo Viana is unfortunately. They will be more enigmatic then anything else. man u will win in the bidding war if fergie really wants rooney and rooney really wants to come. ronaldinho wasn't too sure so we lost him, but saha did want to come and we got him. i suppose if chelsea put a 100 million pound bid then we'll lose, but then maybe rooney doesn't want to go to chelsea. right now its just speculation. Chelsea I doubt. Fat Fred has intemated that Shearers next replacement has to be a world class player. There are only too vaugley realistic choices there that I beleive could adapt to the EPL and score goals. One is Kezman(12 million?) - G U N. The other is Rooney (20 million?) Apart for money for another manager too use, there could be a reason why we haven't been spending and that could be a big monied assult on one of those too. i heard that newcastle want beatie as a successor to shearer, and that beatie will leave southhapmton is hoddle takes over. beatie will be a good buy. i rate him quite highly. not in the nistelrooy, henry class but definately as good as the likes of cisse, inzaghi and saha. I hope to fuck your joking there. Beattie, whilst he is a good player, he is very much a poor mans Shearer. If we couldn't win anything with Shearer, the best target man in Europe over the last decade how the fuck would we go with Beattie then? Plus, I wan't Newcastle to move away form the target man system so we can use our pace to better effect, but thats for another time Gomesh. apparently inter want mexes. Good buy. He would suit the Serie A well IMO. Chuck in Stam and you guys will have a F*N' awesome CB pairing. It seems that Inter are scouting/buying intelligently and it seemed to that it all started when Morriatti left. Wanker. What of your midfield? i also heard that inter and barcelona are planning a major shakeup end of the season regardless of whether or not the teams reach champions league spots. most likely both managers and lots of players will leave Zac? really? Who do you think from both clubs will leave? we'll have to wait and see till the summer who buys who. i've heard that there coudl be a mass sale at roma if there is no buyer, so totti, emerson, cassano, smauel, mancini and chivu could all leave. I hope not. It will be a sad day for football if that happens. apparently cannavaro wants to leave inter as well. everything will work themselves out after the euro championships Why does he want to leave? fletcher looks alright, but i think he's more of a central midfielder than a winger. More of a dud than anything. richardson and chris eagles and tim martin( the bechakm-giggs hybrid) and all supposed to be good and will break into the first team in a few years. Well you knowthat I rate K. Richardson right? But if he (and Fletcher) is anything more that a bit player for Man U ala Fortune, all is not right at Man U i think there will be a changing of the guards in 3-4 years time. then there wil be no more giggs, keane, scholes, butt, solskjear and the nevilles and there will be all these young players. exciting times ahead, if fergie stays. if not anything can happen What are you making of the American dude btw is bridges any good? and are you going to sign him? He is a Geordie and that's all that matter! ;D He has shown previously that he can cut it in this level. He is only 25 and he is a natural finisher which is somthing pretty much everyone bar Shearer and Chopra is so heres hoping. He came on as a sub against Leicster he looked lively but he missed a sitter though. He should get some more chances to prove himself wothy of a contract in the next few games. PS. Should we be shitting ourselves against Middlesborugh given that we have them next? DASA - Feel free to fix up the spelling!
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Post by Vish on Feb 19, 2004 21:44:59 GMT 10
Robben apparently had a blinder V USA scoring a great goal.
He is also said to have faster accelleration from a standing start than Bellemy on the field!
Fuck!
He is still light weight as fuck though.
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Post by Gonzo Gomo Gomez on Feb 22, 2004 18:39:16 GMT 10
the american dude your refering to, is he glazer? the guy trying to buy man u. again i don't want anyone buying man u unless its me( not likely unless i marry bill gates's daughter and he dies leaving me with billions). anyway i heard that man u supporters have about 17% of the company. so collectively they have the second highest share hold. coolmore mafia( the irish racing ppl) have 27-28%, glazer has 16-17%, desmond something( the charmain of celtic and a friend of the magnier and mcmanus ) has about 4-5%and the rest is made up of various ppl.
i really don't see a takeover being imminent, but if it does happen, i don't see it being good for football as a whole. chances are if man u is bought over, there will be a breakaway european super league in the near future. after all all the big italian teams are owned by various families, not sure about the big spanish clubs but they'll tag along and represent their race( i.e barca for the catalonians, real for the castilians( not sure about the spelling but that's the majority of spanish ppl) and valencia for the basque's. so we may see a 15 -20 team league that is made up of the g-14 clubs and a few other top teams and then a secondary league with the other big clubs like newcastle and parma. they premier leauge as we know it will be in the dumps, merely a training ground for the big boys.
cannavaro is just speculation. happens all the time.
zac will get the sack and mancini will take over. that's what i think. lazio are selling everyone. stankjovic has left. stam, oddo and lopez are going to leave. the likes of couto, mihilovic, peruzzi are all in their mid 30's so they will retire soon anyway. so mancini will probably leave and an up and coming manager will take over and groom the young italian players.
at inter a major overhaul is always needed. they have so many useless players on thier books its hard to sort out the good from the bad. that;s why ferrari, frey, adriano and mutu all ended up at parma from inter, where they all blossomed. same wiht pirlo at milan. anyway apparently veiri is going to go. same with farinos. kallon with his drug ban is no real loss especially since we have martins. almeyda, lamouchi area all past their best, while brechet has not shone since his summer move. same with kily gonzales and fadiga. van der meyde has done well, but i'm not sure if he will fit into the plans of the manager( be it zac or osmeone else). kily gonzales may hang around though cause he is a very good player. in defense materazzi has become a liability. he was very good for the past 3 years but not anymore. adaini has always been slow while helveg is not good enough to play regularly. that's just the players that are in the squad. there are lots more languishing in the reserves like umit davala. i have no idea why they swapped seedorf for him.
at barca the obvious ppl going to leave are kliuvert, recber rustu and rafeal marquez. saviola may leave, same with thiago motta and overmars. luis enrique is not getting any younger so he may leave too. thier problem is that htey have lots of non-eu players out on loan ( eg. riquleme) but they have no space for them. right now they are playing well, so maybe rijkarrd will keep his job. there will be a few more, but off the top of my head i can't name who's gonna leave cause i don't know the club well enough.
as for ronney replacing shearer, i don't really see him as a 20-goal a season striker. he reminds me of scholes, and i think he plays best in a position just behind the front striker, like totti. as for beattie, i think he's done really well at southampton over the past 3 years, and the service he recieves is nothing like what van nistelrooy, henry or shearer gets. i just think that it would be a waste if none of the bigger clubs game him a chance to prove how good he can be. i mean if saha had not come to man u, neither you or i would think he's any good.
stam seems to be going to milan, and joaquin to real (i so hope he comes to man u). lucio i think is destined for chelsea, while van der vaart will go to either man u, barcelona or chelsea. he's definately leaving ajax though. kapo and mexes are also on the move. same with zlatan ibrahimovic and kezmen. van bommel and hofland may leave psv, and robben will go to man u or stay put. deigo, robinho, tevez and cavanaghi i think will all move in the summer, but like i said, again we have to wait till euro 2004 finishes before we see all the transfers. can't wait to see all the moves, the interesting thing though is that one club has to start buying the initisate the transfer merry-go-round, since not too many clubs have that much money to spend. swap deals and loans will be very prominent
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Post by Vish on Feb 25, 2004 0:11:13 GMT 10
Can't be fucked replying to all of that young Gomesh.
Anyway, that was more of a statement then a response so it suits. ______________________________________________
You guys are fucked now; Silvestre's injury couldn't have happened at a worse time.
I actually was one the very few non MAN U people who gave you guys a chance to catch Arsenal (though they are still and always were my favourites since the cricket), but now you are fucked.
Now you are going to have 2 midgets playing CB for 3 weeks.
What is your take on the last CL spot.
As well as the EPL title and CL.
Could it be a trophyless season for Fergie?
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Post by Gonzo Gomo Gomez on Feb 27, 2004 18:51:12 GMT 10
the fourth spot i think will be newcastle's. there's just something about liverpool that does not inspire confidence in anyone, then again on paper their strongest team is still very good. when do the two teams meet? i think that will decide who goes to cl and who does not.
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Post by Gonzo Gomo Gomez on Feb 28, 2004 14:43:20 GMT 10
as for man u's season, well i'm always an potimist. as far as i can see, we have not been performing anywhere near our best. in most games, we win because of flashes of individual brilliance or a short period of intensity that causes the opposition to crumble. personally i don't think the team is playing as one unit unlike arsenal.
our defense which had actually been playing well together has been ripped apart by suspensions and injuries, so till fergie can find a way to make the defense work together again, we'll be letting in goals consistently. partly the blame lies with the fact that we have no assistant manager. the asst manager has always taken care of our def, and the improvement that the work of brian kidd, steve McClaren and carlos quieroz was instantly visible. fergie can't deal with the defense, since he's too offensive minded a coach. anyway once we stop letting goals in, the rest of the team will start playing better. its pointless to have giggs, scholes and ronaldo tracking back the entire game to protect the defense.
i can assure you that we will make a push for the title. if we can beat arsenal at highbury then the race will be open again. if we lose or draw then the title will go to them
the cl is more complicated. if man u, real or ac milan suddenly have a massive goal streak than all three will have a chance to win the competition. arsenal and juve could also contend, but both teams are over reliant on a single player ( henry and nedved respectively.) depor, porto, bayern and chelsea are all strong teams, but i can't see them winning the comp.
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Post by Vish on Mar 2, 2004 21:24:07 GMT 10
Potimist.
Interesting.
Is that a blind optimist?
Robben to Chelsea.
Ouch.
When is that push for the title coming?
I can't talk though.
Newcastle are a rabble ATM.
If we get a UEFA spot I will be content with our season.
If we get CL, it will be more due to Liverpool doing amazingly bad.
I wan't Mourihno/O'Neill/Deschamps/Cappello ASAP.
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Post by Gonzo Gomo Gomez on Mar 4, 2004 18:02:25 GMT 10
i meant optimist.
yeah robben's defection hurts. see this is why keynon should still be on gardening leave. he hijacked the transfer. how i would love to sue him, but my networth of a few hundred dollars will never measure up to the might of abramovich's billions
still this is worrying. first ronaldinho and now robben. something must be wrong for the purse strings to be held so tight. still we are being linked with many young and exciting players, though rumor has it that abramovich has set aside half a billion to spend on players which means that man u cannot enter into a bidding war with chelsea. but we coudl still get tevez, rooney, xabi alonso ( yes another dm) and luis jiminez( who is supposed to be another exciting young left winger). then again since we did not get robben, maybe we can get joaquin and groom ronaldo to be giggs's successor on the left. ronaldo's performance's since he came back from him christmas holiday have been very good.
yes newcastle have been playing badly, but so have liverpool. i suppose you two have to scrap it out for 4th spot. 11 games left, so which team has an easier run in?
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Post by Vish on Mar 4, 2004 19:45:26 GMT 10
Robben will be a less verstile, less diving and a better finishing version C.Ronaldo. It all depends on how he adapts to playing the EPL game. One thing he has in his favour in the EPL is the sever lack of quality RB's in the league. How many world class ones are there? ? None I can think of. Ronaldo has been excellent recently. You mention Xabi Alonso. He is quality. Chelsea are looking to offload Makelele so they will be looking for a CDM as well. At least you do have a quality youth Academy. Speaking of youth academies, how good is the kid from Aresenal; Gael Clichey. and Newcastle played a kid called Brittan on the right (We were forced to play Bridges there for most of the match due to injuries and non-sensical selling to rivals) and he apparentley was very skillful, very fast and very energetic. That last characteristic is very promising cuz' we lack "energy" currently We also have a guy called Steven Taylor (CB) who is 18 and is playing in the U21 English team and is tipped to be a superstar. Fast, Tall, Two footed, Good on the ball and is a leader. Think of Ferdinand with leadership we also have a striker called Lewis Guy. Strength pace and skill. Good enough for me. Hopefully our next coach will treat these guys well so we can groom them to be superstars. Liverpool are playig better then us IMO. and they do have an easier draw then us.
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Post by Gonzo Gomo Gomez on Mar 7, 2004 16:53:15 GMT 10
i haven't actually seen gael clichy play, so i can't judge him, but from what i've heard he's supposed to be quite useful.
haven't seen any of the newcastle youngsters play either, but i can say that selling solano was such a dumb thing to do.
chelsea, i think have lost the plot. they are just buying players without any kind of method in the purchases. maybe there will be a mass outflux at the end of the season with a lot of pre-abramovich players leaving, and then there will be more balance in the squad.
liverpool have a good team on paper, but i just feel that they are more likely to hiccup then newcastle. when the two teams meet, that will decide the cl spot i nmy opinion
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Post by Vish on Mar 8, 2004 21:29:53 GMT 10
Totaly agree on the Solano thing.
Ambrose has impressed me alot though. Pace, skill and work-rate. Good lad. Shame he is injured.
I'm all for Newcastle for going for Steed Malbranque as a Solano replacement.
Him and Robert would be great together.
I must say Gomesh that I am warming to Nicky Butt as a DCM in Summer.
Chelsea are the Microsoft of the soccer world now.
I couldn't care less because Chelsea couldn't care less about us.
Little boys is all we are in there eyes. And so are Arsenal it seems.
It does seem that they are a tad obsessed with Man U. I would be half way there to shitting myself if the paper talk comes to be in Summer, but of course, it is only paper talk so far.
Me thinks most of it is the papers trying to stir something between Man U and Chelsea by using the Kenyon as the main 'conflict'.
The Robben transfer will only give the pares more gutter trash journalists more shit to write in the tabloids.
I wil keep you updated with the race for 4th position.
Inter are shit! In fact they would be a good comparison with Newcastle this season.
How will you go V. Porto?
Do you rate Real Mallorca we've got them on Thursday?
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Post by Vish on Mar 8, 2004 21:34:53 GMT 10
Totaly agree on the Solano thing.
Ambrose has impressed me alot though. Pace, skill and work-rate. Good lad. Shame he is injured.
I'm all for Newcastle for going for Steed Malbranque as a Solano replacement.
Him and Robert would be great together.
I must say Gomesh that I am warming to Nicky Butt as a DCM in Summer.
Chelsea are the Microsoft of the soccer world now.
I couldn't care less because Chelsea couldn't care less about us.
Little boys is all we are in there eyes. And so are Arsenal it seems.
It does seem that they are a tad obsessed with Man U. I would be half way there to shitting myself if the paper talk comes to be in Summer, but of course, it is only paper talk so far.
Me thinks most of it is the papers trying to stir something between Man U and Chelsea by using the Kenyon as the main 'conflict'.
The Robben transfer will only give the pares more gutter trash journalists more shit to write in the tabloids.
I wil keep you updated with the race for 4th position.
Inter are shit! In fact they would be a good comparison with Newcastle this season.
How will you go V. Porto?
Do you rate Real Mallorca we've got them on Thursday? ____________________________________________________________
BTW, WTF was going on with Monday morning?
So was it Shehan who pranked me with your phone?
And i'm guessing it wasn't on vibrate/silent going by your return message.
And i'm guessing you felt like an idiot! hehehe.
Apologies.
Can i get your version of the events.
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Post by Gonzo Gomo Gomez on Mar 10, 2004 21:28:45 GMT 10
the monday prank thing:
shehan took my phone and pranked half a dozen ppl, half of whom responded like you. when you sent the SMS, we(mostly him) thought it would freak you out by sending that reply. it was on slient mode so no harm done. just fun, but i will never let shehan use my phone ever again.
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